Facebook has been using our phone number to advertise to us, I am talking about the number we use for 2FA (2 Factor Authentication)
This is unacceptable on many levels, so here is how to remove your number from your account. There is no guarantee that Facebook will stop using your number, but at least we can try!
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Hey Steve, what ever happened to texting our friends and family, talking to them on the phone, video chatting with them?
We can do all of that natively with our phones without needing Facebook. What happened?
Steve, glad to see people showing disgust for these practices. Can you take a look at mewe.com as an alternative, and do a video on it? Sure, it's smaller now and people have a hard time moving to a new platform when they've invested in Facebook, but mewe takes a much more transparent and firm stand on your privacy. Thanks for DottoTech.
Just another show of disrespect for our privacy. If I wasn't using FB for my clients, I would have closed my account by now. So many of my friends have started to close accounts, or just not use them. Is there a rise in paid-closed micro-social networks?
So if I understand this correctly, Facebook is incorporating the mobile number from 2FA into a Custom Audience, which is then used to match me with advertisers who also have that same number? Is that correct?
Good Morning Steve 🌄.
First ; HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO
I was on Your BB Channel about an hour ago.
Listened to the whole thing, and went to the comments.
I was going to first look at what others were having to say.
My phone, said comments were shut down ! (My words, can't think exactly what it said, but that's what it meant).
I don't know if that's, YT, My Phone, or, You❓
Just thought I'd report it to you.
Have a Great Day Steve 😊.
Sincerely, JaneLee ^_^
Outstandingly useful. I would delete Facebook but many of my family use it so I use it to stay in touch. Followed your advice and deleted my phone number; I then got an email from Facebook telling me that because the number had been deleted, 2FA had been suspended and to re-instate I must add a new mobile number. There was nothing in the email about using alternative authentication - misleading but I followed the 2FA route and eventually arrived at the option to use an authenticator. Thanks again.
Steve - that was an excellent video and like you I am stunned how buried something like that proves to be in FB's labyrinthine settings design - it tells you all you need to know about their morality or lack of it. I notice below that several people understandably suggest deleting Facebook altogether, I would agree were it not for the probability that FB runs data profiles on you even if you don't have a FB account. That presumption has to be a reality given the nature of network mathematics in something the size of FB. Gruesome!
In Facebook's settings, they say providing a phone number helps in situations when you forget your password. Period! No mention of using your phone number to provide a "better" ad viewing experience. Lying and misrepresentation = Facebook.
They make it next to impossible. If you forgot your password, you know, the one you made YEARS ago... forget it. They've got your number. It equals money to them. The Ferengi First Rule of Acquisition applies. Good luck on sorting that out!
Thank You Steve 🤗.
Am going to send this to my ex Husband who uses FB, only for announcements from his Diabetic Bike Riding Group..... I'm not sure if he has his phone number on his FB page, (or whatever it's called), but better safe than...well You know 😏.
Sincerely, JaneLee ^_^
What’s the difference. We are being advertised to already with laser focus. This is just one data point of many. If you feel that strongly about being advertised to don’t use free services because that’s their revenue model.
dottotech I don’t think they consider HOW they got your information. If they have it, they use it. To me it doesn’t make a difference. I know I’m the product when the service is free. You have to ask yourself at the beginning if you are okay with trading a free service for advertising constantly directed at you.
Thanks Steve., Phone number removed, and Google Authenticator added as 2FF... Cheers, Garry.
Reminder... if you change phones (as I did moving to my new iPhone), you need to transfer your Google Authenticator to the new phone BEFORE stopping use of your old phone. I learnt about this the hard way. Google Authenticator is tied to the physical phone.
Do you remember our conversation on your video "iOS 12 Udate: Discover What's Inside!" ?
that emergency feature is masked as something as a must have, when in reality it's just another way for apple to steal / share / sell more of your information.
Not sure if I agree with that one.
I explained why, but you wouldn't respond.
Do you now still disagree with what these companies are really doing without your knowledge. This is not something that they just started doing within the past month or even year, this has been going on for years and they already have all of Dotto's Data, and they have already sold it, shared it, distributed it to their partner companies. Changing your number now won't do a damn thing to stop any of it because as soon as you put it in, that information was already stored on their servers. Nothing you do now will change that fact.
Certainly you are righs as far as FB is concerned. If Apple is also guilty I imagine we will hear about it is good order. I still like the emergency call feature. The thing about Apple is they have no need to ask for our phone #. They have it already if they want it. So I still disagree about that feature but overall, you are correct.
Besides wondering what happens to two-factor authentication, which I believe does not affect it at all, what happens to our ability to use Facebook Messenger? Doesn't the app have a hold of our mobile number too?
Question to Facebook: When deleting a phone number, is it truly gone! As a software developer I know that most databases have audits. I guess one would need to trust that the phone number is actually gone and that the company will not use any audit data that may, or may not, still contain this information. Remember - Once it's posted, it may be posted for good!
just sit back and wait for their usual fake apology then go on about your day because in a week you will forget that this even happened and that's what they are counting on.
The corrupt dummycrats will continue to protect them, and this sort of thing will continue to happen as it has in the past.
The circle of life.
Hi Steve, FaceBook owns Instagram as well. Thoughts on our information there? Thank you for offering your community so much value. I certainly appreciate you and what you’re putting out into this space. Have an excellent day.
Thanks Steve - removed. Just one problem tho - I now get a popup message asking me to add my phone number. Hopefully FB will get the message when it eventually notes that I am continually deleting that message.
For the same reason you MUST remove your phone number from your GOOGLE account if it is not too late already.
All these people are data collectors and data sellers.
I have always refused to give my phone number to google or to facebook. Google has a fake phone number of mine connected to my fake email account.
Their algorithm seems to be broken. I'm getting flooded with the next season of electoral ads, however, none of them are from my area if it's an ad for a Statewide seat it's not from my state if it's for a county white sheet the ad is for my County. They're extracting add money and distributing the ads out of Market
Hey Steve, you fail to mention! FB gets your phone number from whatsapp too. Truth! They automatically link your FB to whatsapp which uses your phone number. FB bought whatsapp! Instagram. Its insane. I have thought enough about deleting FB altogether!
Thanks Sue and Steve but I've cracked it before seeing Sue's reply. I used Facebook on my mobile (cell to those in north America) and this didn't have the Confirmation box my pc required.
Great videos Steve - keep it up!
Thanks for replying Steve. The box pops up on the Facebook 'Contact Information' page. When I edit the mobile number then click 'remove' it pops up anticipating a 'Confirmation code' and has a blue 'Confirm' button.
Hi there Steve, good video! Will be checking my setting for sure... Just don't know if this will make a difference. I also use whatsapp which is also owned by facebook. For 2FA i use Lastpass Authenticator. Saw you where reaching for a password Manager when entering your facebook password... What do you use? Greetings from the Netherlands!
Hi Steve. the way you showed on how to remove it was way different than the way i found on my facebook to delete it. i managed to do it though so thank you for the tip about removing it. now FB keeps sending me notes to add a phone every time i open FB
About a year ago, I noticed the FB showing "suggested friends" that were from my work clients. Long story short, the Facebook app uploads contacts from your phone and uses the e-mail to match to make suggestions. 1. Here is how to stop the contact uploading. https://www.facebook.com/help/355489824655936 2. Delete the contacts that FB has uploaded. https://www.facebook.com/mobile/facebook/contacts/?tab=contacts. There are other uploads that you can delete as well. I did this on a computer rather than a mobile device. Basically never upload FB messenger on a mobile phone because they then have your phone number. If you must access FB on a mobile phone, do it through your favorite mobile browser. I use Opera.
Heads up. While you technically may have removed your number Facebook still has it. They will occasionally ask if you want to use 2 factor authentication and can prefill your number for you. How convenient.
Another great tip Steve. I share your frustration at the misuse of our information by conglomerates, FB being just one of the many that wears the 'Highway Mans' mask! Just a wee addendum; when we load FB on our smartphones they automatically 'take' our numbers. Some users think they have to 'give' it to FB intentionally... uh-uh! Also, when we remove our mobile number, we also lose the ability to receive notifications, post photos etc on FB on/from our phones. Personally taking FB off my phone a few months ago was the best thing for me. One less, unnecessary distraction!
interesting.... Mmmmmm?? I followed your instructions after watching this vid and FB said that if I remove my telephone number that I won't be able to post etc... I don't have FB on my phone so I wasn't able to test this... Maybe it's a uk/europe thing to do with GDPR???
I must be missing something, I just tested that and was able to post from my phone. However I am on WiFi. are you saying that when I am mobile I will not be able to post, or that there is another setting on mobile where we need to remove our number?
Is facebook and Google the only stars in the universe of the internet? Ah..........no. Empires are not eternal. They served their purpose then are absorbed or die. Its time to think beyond these social medias Mirage's. May dottotech will be the catalyst for the new movement. There's got to be a better way : find it,
I got a t-shirt ad on Instagram the other day based on data from my old personal Facebook profile. I know this because I have a bogus year and month entered on Facebook. There is nothing in my Instagram profile that would link it to my Facebook, except indirectly through friends. As they say: "If you don't pay for a product, you are the product" so don't think your data is private. For those who didn't know, Facebook owns Instagram.
At 4:45 your hair went to your left. At 4:50 it went to your right but the background wasn't flipped? Most of the show it's to your right. Doing photo reconstruction/repair does this! Thanks for the update and info.
But hang on, Steve. Google, along with Facebook, is one of the biggest abusers of user privacy and data on the planet.
Why would you suggest using Google to get away from Facebook's intrusion? Whilst that is closing one portal to abuse, in my view it is simply opening another!
It is unlikely that most users will cease to use Facebook or Google completely but I am certainly looking for ways to drastically cut back on my use of Google services.
Facebook, of course, is another kettle of fish altogether. There is simply no viable alternative to Facebook and I doubt there will be for the foreseeable future.
Google is not to be trusted either, you need to pick your poison. Having said that, the information harvested by Google is used entirely differently than does Facebook, and Google has never been accused of sharing that info with others.
If you don't like Google Authenticator there are multiple other Authenticators you can chose.
Thanks for the tip. I didn't remember I had added my phone number. Thanks to your video, I just deleted it! More generally speaking, I try to avoid crossing my web connections because I don't trust FB being a good friend of mine, and I don't trust Google being one as well. So, I've created individual passwords for each and manage them (high strength = at least 12 characters) with a password manager (Dashlane) which access code is not hosted by their platform.
Eric Prouzet Removed mine too! Hopefully many of the scam calls I get will stop. Live with Kelly and Ryan had a segment about avoiding scam calls just this morning! Perfect timing for this video to go out, Steve👍🏻
1. Any website that uses your phone number uses it to market to you.
2. Removing it after finding out that they market to you with your number ain't going to do anything. They already have your number. Like a photo, once you give it to them, they have it permanently even if it is "deleted" and out of sight.
Think about it...
Social media is the worst, it is ground-zero for finding out everything about an individual. YouTube is almost the same, Google is trying to give you notifications and instant messaging.
Such answers always come from people who never used Facebook's full potential. There is no adequate replacement for groups and events. Or complaining at big companies is often more effective publicly than using phone or email customer service.
The problem is not that Facebook and Google are the only advertising platforms. The problem is that they are considered mainstream media and without these two, the trend of cryptocurrencies gaining legitimacy is delayed. That is right, I said delayed not blocked or prevented.
The World Has Changed.
Five years ago, when bitcoin was unknown to most people, this might have been a fatal move. Today is a different story. I recently traveled to a remote mountain town in the interior of Mexico. Everyone I met had heard about Bitcoin and eyes lit up with excitement when I ask if I could pay for lunch with bitcoin.
Today are dozens of websites dedicated to cryptocurrencies, either holding them, exchanging them or just writing about them. Probably the most effective advertising remains on Google, it is called Google Search and it is free.
If someone wants to learn about owning bitcoin or any other currency, there is a ton of educational information.
The Flipside Is Being Ignored.
Not All Regulation Is Inherently Bad.
If we examine the full spectrum of regulation to this point on a global scale there is one common target most everywhere. That is the practice of exchanges. So far there has been little or not regulation, threatened or enacted, to protect investors from loss of funds due to security breaches.
Capitulation Is A Good Sign.